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Friendly Barbecue Letters 1998 - 2000
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From: Justin Burke jjburtzel@spam.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: BBQ page
Thanks for the great page. I moved from Eastern NC to Ohio
about 7 years ago and have been craving NC BBQ for about 6
1/2 of those years.
This is a life saver,
Justin in Ohio
From: SuttonsBBQ@aol.com
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: ~Looking for NC's BEST BBQ?~
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To: kent@hkentcraig.com
From: "Gary R. Boye" grb1@leguin.spamspamgoaway.duke.edu
Subject: Web page
Kent,
Enjoyed reading your Web page--I'm a native Georgian who
converting to NC BBQ (almost completely) after moving here
10 years ago.
One small note: hushpuppies are found in Georgia at
restaurants--but as accompaniment to fish, not BBQ
(cracklin' cornbread is more common with BBQ). I still
have a warm spot for non-sugar hushpuppies (the NC type is
damn near a doughtnut, sometimes, but still very good).
Finally: I've always questioned the whole "Western North
Carolina" style as distinct from the style in other
Southern states (i.e., Georgia). To me, it's the eastern
style that is really unique . . .
Happy eatin'
Gary
From: Brenda beasb@ils.nospam.edu
Organization: Academic Affairs Library / UNC Chapel Hill
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: BBQ!!
Hi!
I was just given your site from Bill Walker here at Davis
Library (UNC-CH). Have you tried the "Mighty Fine Seafood
and BBQ Restaurant" in Front Royal, VA? It's worth the
drive. Their grilled spicy shrimp are divine as well! I
will have fun w/your site. Thanks for all the hard work!
Brenda Beasley
Music Cataloging
UNC-Chapel Hill
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
From: Mike York myork@mail.spam.com
Subject: North Carolina Barbecue
Hi Kent,
You have created some truly magnificent North Carolina
Barbecue information on your excellent web site.
Yesterday-Sunday afternoon, a group of us--old tennis
hackers--begin discussing barbecue after our match. We live
in the heart of the Piedmont--Ramseur, NC.
My tennis friends, of course, had to brag about the
delightful culinary qualities of Lexington barbecue. Since
my wife is from Smithfield, NC I have been exposed to
eastern style barbecue: needless to say I love it.
However, I noticed on your analysis page that you gave
White Swain only a three pig rating. You also gave the
location as Clayton, NC. I have always thought that the
original White Swain Barbecue was the one located near
Holts Lake in Smithfield. Am I incorrect?
By the way, I truly love White Swain Barbecue and have
never detected any pink pork; perhaps it is the
culmination of red pepper and beautiful roasted pig
exciting the taste buds and distorting vision?
From: "Kathy Hollinger"
K.Hollinger@spammerseatabadaddy.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: bbq in wilmington
hi kent,
really enjoyed perusing your pages of porcine pleasures,
made me lust for a bit of North Carolina's finest product!
should you ever get to the wilmington area, i suggest
trying
Flip's Barbeque House 5818 Oleander Dr, Wilmington, NC
28403-4769 Phone: (910)799-6350
regards,
martymeyland@spam.net
From: WILD BILL wild-bill@ihatespam.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Danny's in Cary
Hi Kent,
Have you tried Danny's in Cary? It's that brick
strip-mall-type place across Tryon Road from the Walmart.
We had heard it was good, so we went on Saturday. I'd give
it three pigs on your scale (I won't give four until
someone beats Bullock's).
The barbeque is Eastern-style, and pretty good. They have
three kinds of sauce, a mustard sauce, a barbeque sauce
(like for chicken or ribs), and a hot sauce. They're hot
sauce is probably the best barbeque-style hot sauce I've
ever had. It's hard to find sauce that's very spicy and
very tasty, but they have it.
The barbeque plates come with Texas toast and two sides.
Any place with Texas toast is on the right track. I chose
slaw and fries as my sides.
The fries were so-so, but the slaw was very good. I also
sampled the baked beans, and they were delicious. They
were a little spicy, and had bits of meat in them, I think
it was beef. The one bad thing was the hush puppies. They
tasted fine, but they cost extra. Hush puppies should be
complementary, and put on the table when they come to take
your drink order.
We're already planning our next trip out there. Next time
I'll try the beef.
Bill
From: "Len Revelle" lenrev@nospam.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Lexington style
Kent,
A pleasure finding your page. I was raised in Lexington and
worked for Sonny Conrad at Bar-B-Q Center and Southern
Bar-B-Q. as a high schooler. Have been stuck near Chicage
since early '70's.
My dad worked for the original Stamey's in Greensboro as
well as several others in the Piedmint and I have his
original Stamey's recipes (suitable for a mongol hoard,
i.e. 50 pounds of cabbage, etc...).
Shoulders can be hard to find here but I've learned to use
a small Brinkman smoker and cook Boston Butt. Takes 4-6
hours and 10-15 pounds of charcoal with only a few wood
chunks added the last hour. If needed I can write it up for
you. I do the whole thing with red slaw, hush puppies, and
dip. I come to Lexington annually and have been known to
smuggle 10-20 cases of Cheerwine into Illinois "for
personal consumption" which enhanses the experience several
times a year.
*********************************************************
Len Revelle n9ij@iname.com
N9IJ lenrev@compuserve.com
AMA 60055 http://user.mc.net/~lenrev
*********************************************************
From: WILD BILL wild-bill@ihatespam.net
To: "H.Kent Craig"
Subject: Re: NC BBQ
Kent,
That's a great page, I'm glad I was able to find it. I've
been eating NC-style BBQ for all of my almost 30 years, but
only in concentrated areas.
Two places in Albemarle, where my grandparents live, are
Whispering Pines and the Log Cabin (which used to be called
Wink's, and I don't know if it's related to the other
Wink's). Whispering Pines is a family tradition, whenever
we visit my grandparents we eat there, and whenever they
come up here they bring some with them. But I think I
prefer the Log Cabin, which is just down the road. The
barbeque is about equal (the owners are sisters), but the
Log Cabin gives you a choice of red slaw or white slaw.
I had always thought that the difference between Eastern-
and Western-style was the slaw. In the East you got a
mayonaise-based white slaw, and in the West you got a
vinegar-based red slaw. Have you found that to be the
case? I prefer the white slaw, which is why I also prefer
Log Cabin.
I lived in Durham for a couple of years, and spent a lot of
time at Bullock's. You're right, no matter when you go or
what you get, the food is great. I've taken many people
there, and they all loved it.
I've eaten at Park Diner, but never had their barbeque.
I'll have to try it sometime. I eat at Davis Family
Barbeque quite often, since it's near my office. It's in
Morrisville on Highway 54, near the post office. It's
pretty good, but certainly not on Bullock's level. Also,
they have Texas Pete instead of their own hot sauce. My
theory is that any barbeque restaurant that doesn't have
it's own hot sauce can only be so good.
I've also spent some time in Texas, mostly around Austin,
and I love the Texas style beef barbeque. Sliced beef,
sliced onion, sliced jalepeno, sliced bread. And then a
slice of pie! I ate at the Blue Moon place on Hillsborough
Street just this week. It was very good, but not quite as
good as you can get in Texas.
Maybe I can write you a review of those Albemarle
restaurants next time I visit the grandparents.
Bill
Message From: b.mader@nospam.com (Mader, Bob (Cahners))
Date: Thu, Jan 14, 1999, 10:41am
Dear Kent,
...I'm more of a fan of Midwest barbeque with a good sauce.
For really good barbeque here in Chicago, you gotta go to a
black joint that has a smoker and a homemade sauce. My
favorite is a takeout joint called The Rib Inn on Chicago's
southwest side. I can't tell you how many chain and
franchise restaurants I've been to that make claims like
"award winning ribs" that serve the worst boiled pork I've
ever had.
I've only had Texas barbeque once and I thought it was
dried out and tasteless.
Regards,
Bob Mader
{Note from Kent: originally, I received some email from
Dave Wilson of Short Sugar's asking why I hadn't reviewed
his BBQ restaurant. I replied very honestly that it was
because there are without much exaggeration 1,000 NC-BBQ
restaurants in North Carolina, and only one of me. I told
him that if he wished, he could write a promo email about
his place and I would post it here, which I'm doing now. If
you own/operate an NC-BBQ restaurant, and would like some
similar free ad space that's read by 200 to 500 N.C.
barbecue afficiandos per week, send me your copy, and I'll
post it here, verbatim as you write it, free of
charge.~~~Kent}
From: "DAVID B.WILSON" davew@vnet.net
To: "'H.Kent Craig' kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: RE: Short Sugar's Drive-In, 1328 South Scales
Street, Reidsville, NC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 19:56:05 -0500
Kent,
Thanks for your message/reply re. Short Sugar's,
Reidsville, NC. We are a family restaurant with a 50's
flair-curb service- with full service also.
We open 6 days/week, 6am 'til 9pm. We offer "The Best in
Old Fashioned Bar-B-Q prepared in 3 ways, sliced and
chopped, which are prepared right out in front of everyone,
and minced, which we do prepare mechanically. As you would
probably guess by opening at 6am, we do serve a full line
of breakfast items. Our Bar-B-Q and our sauce are our
specialties, and we have been serving up this delicacy
since 1949. We will be celebrating our 50th anniversary
during 1999 with various special events which will be
advertised as the year unfolds. Should your travels bring
you near Reidsville, please stop in and partake of our
manna from heaven.
Have a great 1999!
David B. Wilson, President
Short Sugar's
1328 South Scales Street
Reidsville, NC 27320
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 18:12:26 -0700
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
From: Nelson Goforth ngoforth@nospam.net
Subject: Barbeque
Kent,
I've enjoyed visiting your BBQ site. As a displaced
Wilsonian I do miss the ability to quickly run out to
Bill's or Parker's for a quick bite (though my waistline is
probably the better for it).
Just to get in my two-cents worth - my pick for best
barbeque would be Bill's in Wilson (though I was raised on
Parker's and it's dear to my heart). I also enjoyed the
earthy pleasures of B's hand-chopped barbeque in
Greenville. My brother introduced me to that place, though
he's now partial to Ken's Grill in LaGrange (he lives in
Kinston).
Nelson Goforth
From: "DonnaMichael" fyhdrmn@spamsucks.or.jp
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Bravo!
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1998 08:13:07 +0900
Kent
Being a displaced North Carolinian (military stationed in
Japan), I was delighted to find your webpage. I'm from
Goldsboro and was proud to see Wilbur's mentioned in your
NC BBQ ratings. It truly is an institution in my parts. I
also enjoyed reading your articles in the Nostalgia
section. You're a talented writer. Thanks for giving a
southern boy a taste of down home when he's so far away.
God bless you. May your family have a happy and prosperous
New Year.
Michael Darlington
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1998 13:06:53 +0000
From: Chris Johnson johnson@netspam.com
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: eastern style
Carrolton VOL. fire department has a real good pig cook.
It takes place in Carrolton VA which is near Norfolk or
Smithfield. My daddy was one of the charter members of the
dept. and the pig roast. Its a really fun time and the bbq
in definatly four pigs.
Chris johnson
Fairfax VA
From: "Ed McDade" rfrx@nospam.com
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: BBQ
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 05:10:19 -0500
Dear Mr. Craig
I would like take a moment and tell you as a fellow Tarheel
I enjoyed your Renaissance Homepage and Online
Magazine...concerning the 4 pig rating, have you ever eaten
at the McCullers Crossroads Ruitan BBQ? Right down 401S
and if I remember correctly 1010 is the Crossroad {This is
just 3-4 miles south of downtown Raleigh, BTW~~~Kent}. In
any event I would rate this as a four pigger as well.
Thank you for your time.
Ed L. McDade
Date: Mon, 07 Dec 1998 22:52:47 -0500
From: Patrick and Alison Kavanaugh pakav@nospam.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: bbq
hi,
b's barbeque in greenville, nc. is the best barbeque
anywhere! i am a devoted fan of b's and travel to
greenville often in search of that delectable treat. you
may have a hard time getting in touch with themas they have
no phone, but you should try it out. they are on hwy 43 at
b's barbeque road.
alison
(For those of you not exactly familiar with the Greenville,
NC area, you can find Highway 43 just east of Greenville at
Exit #75 on Highway 264, '264 being the main east-west
fourlane expressway in the area...proceed south on Highway
43, look for an older building with lots of character at,
as the writer says above, where "B's Barbecue Road"
deadends into '43....Kent)
From: "Maryellen Brown" mkbrown@spamisnotnice.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: jtlyk
Date: Sun, 6 Dec 1998 21:46:43 -0500
Hi! I live in Thomasville, NC which is about 5 miles from
Lexington.
Just wanted to let you know that all the BBQ restaurants in
this area (including Lexington) also serve red slaw in
addition to sauce and hushpuppies with their BBQ. They also
always serve a traditional southern dessert such as peach
cobbler or banana pudding.
You have a great page going there. I will probably link my
web page to yours, if you don't mind. Keep up the good
work!
M. Brown
From: STOLERU@nospam.com
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 1998 07:36:31 EDT
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Re Pete Jones Barbecue, Ayden, NC
You are so right re the food in this place!! I stopped
there last spring, about 6 pm, with my sister and her
dgtr-in-law, because said dgtr-in-law, a self-proclaimed
expert on EVERYTHING, said it was the best ever barbecue!
Needless to say, I am a real snob when it comes to food, as
there aren't too many foods I really, really love, and GOOD
pig is way up on my list. I was so aggravated at the way it
was served, I couldn't hold my tongue! First of all, it was
cold! When I requested it be heated,I was told "most people
like it this way" which I, being a "pig snob", know is a
lie! Then when I saw those chunks of fat (cracklings)
looking back at me like eyes, I knew I'd best forego
dinner, if I didn't want a night of pain and
sleeplessness. The only good thing about this stop was
walking across the road and seeing those lovely Fice {Rat
Terrier} dogs bred by one of the men from "PETE JONES". And
during your visit, did you notice all the testimonials and
awards on the wall, from "famous" North Carolinians, and
others, of reknown, praising the food? All I can say is,
they all must have been imbibing another NC speciality,
moonshine, in order to eat and enjoy that "stuff" they have
the unmitigated gall to call BARBECUE.
Sincerely Sherill TOLER Urbanski, a native of Carteret Co,
NC, and one who knows'where of I speak'
re BARBECUE!
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:27:50 -0500
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
From: Cheryl Dehut
Subject: Lexington style BBQ recipe
Greetings,
I'm looking for a good N.C. style pork BBQ recipe,
Lexington style.
(Note from Kent: if anyone has a good Lexington-Style
Western-NC BBQ sauce and/or complete recipe they're willing
to share, please
email it to me and
I'll post it on the BBQ-Related Recipes Page, thanks,
Smile!)
From reading your page, that sounds like Western style.
(Though living in Texas now, I'm a native Iowan, where
raised on a farm = raised on pork. But we never did
anything close to Lexington style BBQ.)
My husband's mother's uncle was Sid Meridee Weaver, the
fellow usually credited with opening the first BBQ stand
in Lexington, N.C. Whenever we went to visit "Uncle
Arnold" Weaver in Lexington, (Sid's nephew) he always took
us out for BBQ. Arnold Weaver is gone, and my
mother-in-law is in her mid 80's. When she's gone, we
probably won't go back to North Carolina very often. Since
there aren't too many places in Texas that sell Lexington
style pork BBQ, I figure I ought to learn how to make it.
TIA.
BTW, I found your site while browsing rec.food.cooking.
Cheryl Dehut
Leander, Texas USA
Home of Dehut Bookkeeping Services,
Sophie the African Grey at http://www.fmp.com/sophie.html
and Possum Haw Cloggers at http://www.fmp.com/possum_haw
10-9-98
Kent, have you eaten at Alston Bridges BBQ in Shelby? It is
excellent, has great slaw, the red kind...!! Also try
Bridges BBQ there, the same name but a different place.
There are two other ones too, try RO's BBQ and Blacks BBQ
in Gastonia. 2 great places....... I live up here in
Brevard, so nobody around here can cook it! Not in the
mountains.
Let me know what you think of these and many many thanks
for your site. We love it here. But why do we see these new
sites when we are so hungry and 60 miles away from the
nearest good place, Shelby! Mark Runyan, Brevard NC
From: "Dawn"
9-19-98
RE: your internet page on NC barbecue.
I enjoyed reading it. I am from Charlotte, NC, but I was
born in Salisbury. I visit there often, and barbecue has
always held a place in my life....childhood memories,
visits, and the stories my family tell. My father worked
at the original College Barbecue, and my grandmother to
this day has coffee every morning at Richards....my entire
family can be found camped out there on weekend
mornings....they have their own booths!
I have eaten barbecue in Lexington, and once when my son
was younger....about 12....he came out of the bathroom and
asked for a quarter, and I thought he wanted to play a
video game so I obliged.
Several quarters later I discovered the barbecue place had
one of those old, sexy, movie viewing slot machines in the
bathroom....hehehe....one of my funny barbecue
memories....enjoyed your page.....Dawn
From: "Roger D. Waddell"
Enjoyed your info on NC BBQ, etc. My wife is from
Salisbury and we occasionally make the trek there for a
long weekend of visitation at various BBQ restaurants. If
you ever pass through Salisbury, try Wink's, Troutman's, or
College Barbecue. All are highly recommended.
Later,
Roger D. Waddell
Rome, GA 30165
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 20:00:26 +0100
From: Doug Weller
Subject: Western NC BBQ
You are also usually served some sort of home-made,
hand-cut from fresh potatoes french fries at Western-Style
joints. Little Smokey's (not sure if I have that right,
it's been a couple of years) in Burnsville has those fresh
chips which are one long curly chip all from one potato.
Great BBQ.
Doug
--
Doug Weller, Moderator, sci.archaeology.moderated
Ever since I've set up my barbecue page, I've received at
least 2-3 requests per week from expatriate Tar Heels
(North Carolina natives) who live in California or New York
or even Alaska who miss NC-Style BBQ, and who would pay a
premium for a barbeque restaurant to send them some
emotional survival and nostalgia food from home. Living
here in N.C. all my life, of course I've never had to have
any shipped to me via air freight, Smile.
As a service to these readers, I bumped King's BBQ in
Kinston to the head of the "review line" and posted my
dine-in review of them on my main barbecue page, but
obviously didn't have any of their barbecue and sides
next-day-air'd to Raleigh to check out that part of their
service.
If you, gentle reader, have ever had direct experience in
ordering and having some NC-BBQ shipped to you directly
from any barbeque restaurant, please
email me with some
particulars of what restaurant you ordered from,
approximately how much extra the shipping charges were, and
any other details or comments you care to share with others
homesick for a taste of home, I'd really appreciate it, and
THANKS!~~~Kent
From: RJP
Subject: Meltons
I went to Melton`s when I was in Rocky Mount. I was With a
Calif. transplant T. and a real Tennessean, and me raised
in bacca row but transplanted to TN(Nashville). The food
was good, BUT I have gotten used to TENNESSEE BBq. I like
the crispy edges on TN BBq, Meltons was too mushy, the
Brunswick stew was fair, not enough chicken in it.
Nashville BBq is NOT Memphis BBQ, it is more like NC BBq
but has more flavor and texture and crispiness, SORRY an
Tarhell at heart,but TN. is mighty fine, plus we can have
any color roof we want.I will be in Durham for the Blues
fest on the 11th to see Buddy GUY. Maybe I can make it
to Bullocks. Thanks for the BBq info
From: "Jim O'Brien"
What about FireHouse BBQ in Morganton, NC? I live in Las
Vegas, Nevada, and I have FedEx'd their BBQ out here for
our 4th of July picnic. They have, beyond belief, some of
the BEST BBQ I have EVER tasted.
JIM
(Smoky Mtn. resident of the 70's).
May 28, 1999
--- Andy Madden madden@ynospam.com wrote:
Kind Sir:
As a native Tennessean transplanted amongst throngs of
Californians to whom barbeque is a verb, not a noun, I
relished your web site and drank in every lovely detail of
barbeque, it's origins in your home state, and it's
traditions.
Although my first usual instinct is to lash out at those
that cannot accept my native Memphis style barbeque as the
one and only true Q, I shall not take up arms and rally
against you.
Because I am so far away from my home and the so-called
barbeque here in the San Francisco area is mostly (god
forbid) beef or sliced pork tenderloin, I shall embrace you
as a neighbor (however mislead) who enjoys the art of pork
barbeque, also. A kindred spirit who understands when no
one else will that aroma only hickory smoked shoulder can
produce; the grand tradition of vinegar-based slaws and
sauces; dry rubs for proper ribs. I could go on and on.
Thank you for your attention to detail. I had almost
forgot how much I missed my home and barbeque.
If you are ever in Memphis, please stop by Neely's on
Jefferson (in Midtown) for the Barbequed Spaghetti. That's
right..........the sauce for the noodles is slightly
flavored with their award winning vinager-based Q sauce.
It is baked, casserole style and topped with chopped
shoulder before serving.
Many, MANY people who I have taken there start with
"Barbequed WHAT?", then leave swearing it is the most
tasty, most interesting combination of flavors they have
ever tried. I had them cater my wedding rehersal dinner.
The best dry ribs I have ever had would be at Charlie
Vergo's Rendesvous (downtown). Outta this world dry
barbeque.
Of course, Memphis is loaded with 10,000 Q joints, all just
as good as the next. Man, I miss that town.
Thanks for the website.
A true blue Q fan
Andy
May 25, 1999
--- Miles Gore (mgore@nospam.com) wrote:
Well, I assume that you've been to Parkers in Wilson - I've
tried Bill's as well, but I preferred Parker's.
In South Carolina, the mustard bbq mecca road leads to
Eutawville and Sweatman's. If you haven't tried it, you
must make the pilgrimage. When I lived in SC I would go
there at least once a month.
Some people really like Piggy Park in Columbia - which is
very good - but Sweatman's is the place to go.
Good luck.
Miles Gore
May 12, 1999
--- MJones@nospam.com wrote:
Just reading the article makes my mouth water. I am
Tarheel, from Durham transplanted to Orlando, FL. Every
time I am back in NC I have to have BBQ. In Durham the
place to go is Bullocks BBQ.
We have some good BBQ places here in Orlando, FL but have
not found one that does NC Style. There is a new place
called Conways that claims to but I have not tried it yet.
I am always looking for a mail order place to get NC Style.
(King's will ship anywhere...click on this sentence to read
my review of it, thanks!~~~Kent)
Michael G. Jones
Orlando, FL
Mgjklj@nospam.net
May 12, 199
--- louis johnson at louiscjohnson@webspam.net wrote:
I have finished reading the review of Bill's Bar B Que in
Wilson. I could not have written it better, and I must say
that I can confirm all the accolades given to Bill Ellis. I
have eaten there many times during the past twenty five
years, and I have talked to Bill on several occasions.
He is truly a fine man and really cares about his product.
I have eaten in many fine restaurants across North Carolina
and the South for that matter, but if I am given a choice
of where to eat, I will take Bill's Bar B Que over any
place I know. Thanks for putting this review on the web.
LOUIS AND JOANNE JOHNSON
louiscjohnson@webspam.net
4-16-99
As a longtime Barbecue lover, I have eaten at nearly every
Barbecue restaurant in eastern NC, My all-time favorite is
Morris' Barbecue in Hookerton ( open only on Saturday
mornings). The best Barbecued chicken is B's Barbecue in
Greenville. The best mail-order is King's in Kinston.
Henry Temple
Wilmington
From: Ellen Flaherty ellenaf@eagle.cc.spamspamgoaway.edu
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Great NC BBQ description
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 1999 20:04:38 -0600
Dear Sir,
I am a Virginia native with a mother and father from
Hamlet, NC.
Currently I reside in Lawrence, KS and while Kansas City
boasts of famous BBQ it just doesn't hold a candle to the
Eastern style NC BBQ you describe so eloquently on your
page. For the past three years I've been trying to explain
exactly what makes beautifully barbecued pork...which is a
wasted effort if drenched in the heavy, sweet sauce so
prevalent here. I plan on sending those unfortunate enough
to have never tasted the heaven-on-a-bun that is a minced
pork BBQ sandwich with slaw to your site to see what they
have been missing.
Warm Regards,
Ellen Flaherty
From: "Charles S. Brummitt" CSBrummitt@nospam.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Beckham's Barbeque & Restaurant
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 18:16:57 -0500
Kent,
If you haven't visited Beckham's, give it a try. Its just
outside of Henderson on US1 Business. The address is Rt.1
Box 41, Kittrell, NC 27544.
Very good Eastern NC style, of course.
cb
From: Don Corn decorn@pophost.spam.net
Reply-To: decorn@spam.net
To: "H.Kent Craig"
Subject: Re: Eastern NC BBQ
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 1999 15:30:32 -0700
Hi Kent,
I sure do appreciate your help re: N. C. Bar B Que. I
ordered some right away {from King's BBQ in Kinston, per my
review & recommendation~~~Kent} and it turned out to be
everything that you and they both said it would be and
more. My wife and I haven't had anything so good since we
left N.C. about 20 years ago. I really don't know why I
had never dug up a place to order it from before but at
least the situation is corrected now. Thanks again!!
Just for your info, we've also tryed the Burger Smokehouse
country ham and it is outstanding. Not too salty but with
the good old country taste.
Their e-mail is www.smokehouse.com. I recommend it!
From: Billy Bob getoffme@nospam.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Sonny's BBQ
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 05:24:38 -0800
Being a major BBQ fan, I caught your rant on Sonny's in
Pensacola
{Note: I didn't write that particular review, it was a
guest review written by Vann A. Boseman, whose name was
listed as the author}.
Here in California, we don't get much in the way of 'real'
BBQ. California's idea of BBQ is burgers on the Weber
grill. Over mesquite coals is considerd gourmet.
Having driven up and down the interstates of Florida, you
can't miss Sonny's BBQ. They're everywhere. Good food for
a chain, for the most part. Most hardcore BBQ afficiandos
favor the smaller mom and pop joints.
Your review of the Sonny's in Pensacola speaks volumes
about your lack of knowledge of BBQ
{Note Redux: again, I didn't write the the review, it was a
guest review...though I suppose the owners of Allen & Son
BBQ would agree with you about my lack of barbecue
knowledge, Smile!~~~Kent}.
The "funny looking redness" you refer to is the smoke ring.
This is a true indication of woodsmoked meat as opposed to
grilled. This smoke ring penetration is what the BBQ chefs
strive to achieve. In contest and commercial BBQ, this is
a good thing. The dry chicken should have been sent back.
North Carolina is the center of the universe for pork 'Q.
For the most part around Texas, beef is the king.
Especially brisket.
Check out Hollywood's BBQ in Pensacola. It's in a trailer
next door to a Groovin' Noonans in a scary part of town.
The BBQ beef sandwich is awesome.
We have sorry excuses for 'Q in SoCal. I always look
forward to traveling in the South.
Billy
http://home.pacbell.net/lumpdawg/index.html
From: Ken Langley langley@med.spamcity.edu
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: A & M Grill Mebane NC
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 08:27:51 -0500
I'd review it for you but being raised there it would taint
the process. Interesting barbecue -- Not quite eastern/not
quite western.
Still use hickory to cook the pig -- which is available
either chopped or sliced (the best). Good hushpuppies and
it now has a cheap side (normal joint-ish type place) and
an expensive side (beer, mixed drinks, et. al.). Good
hushpuppies as well. No brunswick stew (I think they
stopped serving chicken as well). The restaurant has just
been taken over by the third generation of the family. I
can give directions to it if necessary.
Date: Tue, 09 Mar 1999 12:15:06 +0500
From: Bill Walker wwalker@email.nospam.edu
Organization: Academic Affairs Library / UNC Chapel Hill
To: "Kent H. Craig" kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: BBQ Book Store Website
Kent,
I found a rich source of books on all kinds of BBQ books at
a website for a store based in Reidsville. Try
http://www.reidsville.com/books/bbq.htm .
Dave Wilson the Short Sugar's manager is not familar with
it but will check it out. I did a search of the Library of
Congress holdings on BBQ and most of the interesting titles
are on their book list. UNC has only a very few books on
BBQ, Bob Garner's book and video an not much else. Little
regional and no national coverage. BBQ is not a highly
funded research field here nor is it a core study. Room for
the amateur gentleperson scholar! If you scroll to the end
of the book list, there you will find a good photo of Short
Sugar's BBQ. Pull under the awning after 11:00 am and you
can still get curb service. No one is on roller skates. A
good way to avoid smokers...Reidsville does not stress " no
smoking areas ".
Bill
Date: Sat, 06 Mar 1999 16:33:43 -0500
To: "H.Kent Craig"
From: rl belyea naskarma@spam.net
Subject: Re: Western-style barbecue
Hey, Kent!
Not to pick, but what you included in your roulette is
**Don** Murray's, on Capital Blvd. Now, there is a
difference. The Murray's on Old Poole Road is a low
cinderblock building that probably was built sometime
between the War of Northern Aggression and WWII... (g) I
prefer doing takeout from them -- and for $8 you get a full
pound of barbecue, pint of slaw and a whole mess o'
hushpuppies -- because at home I can eat with real utensils
and dishes, not plastic and paper... (g) I found the place
in the phone book when I moved down here 3 1/2 years ago,
and since they don't do any advertising and are closed on
the weekends, I figured this place was worth trying. It
was...very much so.
I don't know if these two Murray's are related, but my
experience has been that the barbecue is much better over
on Old Poole than on Capital Blvd., 'tho' I do like to do
the buffet at Don Murray's. And you're right, they're
inconsistant...some nights it's dry, some nights it's
soaking (you can squeeze the liquid out of it), some nights
it's extra hot (spicy) and some nights you have trouble
even finding a pepper flake in it. I've eaten at both the
Barbecue Lodges as well, and found them not necessarily
inconsistant, but nothing to write home about. I live
behind the one on Capital Blvd., so it's nothing for me to
walk over there and get some 'cue and slaw occasionally.
It's worth the walk, but, as you pointed out, not worth a
long drive... (g)
If you have never tried the Murray's on Old Poole, I'd
encourage you to.
As far as the place south of Sanford, yeah, picnic table
and "mineral museum" (and indian artifacts, if I remember
the relatively new hand painted sign out front)...that's
Jones Family. It's not bad, but I'm an eastern Carolina
barbecue follower, so to find a Lexington 'cue joint this
close to the Triangle is bordering on profanity... I
like 'em all, but no barbecue comes close to spiritual
awakening than a good eastern Carolina 'cue... :)
As far as a review, well, I just don't have the time...I
wish I did, but I don't between my work and my primary
hobby: NASCAR racing. I'm a huge fan, and have been known
to make it to close to two dozen various races (of
different series) within a season.
Okay, enuf babbling from me...just wanted to let you know
about Murray's.
Take care!
robin
From: "Joy L. Douglass" joy_douglass@spammerssuck.com
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: NCBBQ
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 19:42:30 -0500
Hello Kent.
I grew up in Shelby, NC and the BBQ by which I judge all
BBQ is Alston Bridges on highway 74. Please try it if
given the chance!
They have red slaw which I love and haven't found around
the Triangle. Also, the hushpuppies are so good, I almost
break down in tears.
Joy Douglass
From: tntrheel1@nospam.net David Hooper
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 1999 13:15:34 -0500 (EST)
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: BBQ
I have to agree, I am from the eastern part of NC
originally(Fayetteville for 14 yrs, then Chapel Hill for 10
years.) I grew up on eastern style,so the first time I
tasted western style, I was nearly apalled for the fact
that I thought someone had used bbq sauce when making there
bbq. I now live in east TN and its still basically the same
as western style, but more brown sugar added to the
recipes. Thanks for your home page. I do have one question?
Did you eat at the Allens on 15-501 south on the way to
Pittsboro, or the one on 86 north heading to Hillsboro? I
liked the first one better than the second personally. I
thought the bbq was a lot better and cooked more
thoroughly.
Dave Hooper
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 21:21:53 -0500
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
From: rl belyea naskarma@nospam.net
Subject: Western-style barbecue
I saw the post you made to triangle.dining, and took a
few minutes to check out your web site. Very good...very
interesting, but missing one fact:
"Western-style" NC barbecue is more commonly refered to
as Lexington or Lexington-style barbecue, in honor of the
town of Lexington, the self-acknowledged Barbecue Capital.
You might make mention of that in your dissertation on the
types of NC barbecue.
Okay, I just found your page on Lexington barbecue, but
you really should point that out in your differences page,
because anyone coming in from out of state will hear
"Lexington" way more often than "western". And BTW,
there's a barbecue joint just south of Sanford (Tramway, I
think the area is called) right on Rte. 1 that serves
Lexington barbecue. Can't remember the name of it, but I
stopped there on my way down to Rockingham a couple of
weekends ago...and was a little surprised (and a tiny bit
dismayed, as I'd had my heart set on eastern 'cue) to find
Lexington 'cue this far east.
And, if I may be so bold as to point out, "doses of
ketchup" is plural, so they "-are- added to the vinegar
base". :)
Otherwise, keep up the good work, and if you're taking
a vote for best place in Raleigh, I'd have to vote on
Murray's Barbecue on Old Poole Road...simply the absolute
best this girl's found. :)
Just wish they were open on the weekends...
robin
naskarma@spammerseatthis.net
BB What goes around, comes around...and around...and
around...and... AB
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:38:39 -0500 (EST)
From: Larry Boles lboles@email.nospam.edu
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: BBQ
Kent,
Nice page, I am glad someone finally put this info online.
I agree wholehoggedly with your reviews. Everyone around
Chapel Hill is always talking about how great Allen and
Sons is, but I think they are all recently arrived Yankees.
I grew up west of the tomato line (85 and 220) and will
always favor pork shoulders. While I am in the triangle I
will visit Bullock's whenever possible.
Larry C. Boles
Phone: 919.BR549 :)
Dept of Biology CB#3280
Email: LBOLES@email.nospam.edu
Univ. of North Carolina
Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3280
http://www.unc.edu/~lboles
From: Retroraider@neverspam.net (Timothy Adkins)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 21:24:55 -0500 (EST)
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Re: Bar-B-Q Restaurant Reviewers Wanted!, No Spam,
Non-Commercial
Hey. How ya doing? I just read your post regarding BBQ
reviews, and though I don't know much about the subject, I
(and I hope I didn't overstep my bounds) forwarded your
post to rec.sport.football.college in hopes of helping you
out. These guys are BBQ Gods! and are very passionate
about BBQ. They talk about it frequently on the ng during
the off season, and I am certain they have the expertise to
help.
Like I said, I hope I haven't caused any problems. Some of
these guys are pretty spirited in their responses, but like
I said, they're experts.
Much luck on the webpage, which by the way, is very
informative.
Timothy
Retroraider@neverspam.net
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:47:23 -0700
From: Don Corn decorn@pophost.spamsucks.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Eastern NC BBQ
Your explanation of the Eastern NC BBQ is the best I've
seen. The only thing missing are addresses of suppliers
who can ship this ambrosia to Idaho. We've been devotees
of this stuff for a number of years but never have known
where to get it out in this part of the country. Any help
you can give me will be very much appreciated. {I told him
about my review of King's BBQ of Kinston on the main BBQ
Page, which will ship anywhere~~~Kent}
Don
Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 12:35:18 -0500
From: Tom Williams Tomw@nospam.edu
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: try this
I have tried BBQ all through the south and agree that the
places in and around lexington are supreme. You should try
Bubba's BBQ at exit 16b on I77 north of Charlotte. Very
good eastern style BBQ. and for a change of pace try Piggy
Park in Columbia, SC. It's a mustard based sauce I have
found no where else except in S. Carolina. I have to take
my relatives there when they visit.
Tomw@gwm.sc.edu
From: "Beth Clapp" clapp006@mc.nospam.edu
To: "H.Kent Craig"
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 1999 09:28:15 -0500
Subject: Allen & Son BBQ/Chapel Hill...Stevie James
BBQ/Rougemont...
I appreciate your reply. It would probably not be a good
idea for me to write a review for them (Allen & Son BBQ).
See, I worked there for 4 years in high school and the
owner gave me the job. They are good people. My parents
still live in the same house up the street that I was born
to. So I am a native of NC BBQ. Don't get me wrong, just
because I am born and bred here does not mean I love BBQ.
Remember I worked there. I rarely eat BBQ these days for
that reason. I just believe that if I did still work there,
that customers should let businesses know if they are
dissatisfied with the service or food. This way things get
better not worse.
On another note, I have not read any of your other reviews.
I accidentally came across your review of Allen and Son
searching for something else.
If you have not tried Stevie James BBQ, you need to. He is
out of Rougemont and only caters. He does not have a
restaurant. He has wonderful BBQ. I am not putting Allen
and Son down, but again I worked there.
Thanks for the conversation.
Beth
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 1999 11:35:53 +0500 (EST)
From: William Walker wwalker@nospam.edu
Subject: Allen & Son BBQ, Chapel Hill, NC....UGGH!!
I had the second worst BBQ that I had ever had in North
Carolina last evening. Since Bob Garner insists even off
camera in recommending Allen and Son's north of Chapel
Hill, my scholarly duty forced me to give it a current
taste. I made the mistake of ordering the large chopped BBQ
and slaw platter. If I had placed the pork in a colander I
guess Icould have drained 1/3+ cup of grease! I could not
taste ANY hint of hickory smoke. Had I not seen the Garner
Video , I would have guessed that they had taken some very
fat pork, added some fatback and cooked the gob in a
crockpot!!! The hush puppies had absorbed 1/3 inch of
grease.
The slaw was coarse ( OK ) but awash in mayonaise
dressing. It made Bullock's look dry. The " homemade "
lemon meringue pie was strange; the meringue was utterly
flat and the filling was eatable but unlike any I have ever
seen on earth. The tea was undistinguished. The overpricing
was the nail in the coffin.
Weather permitting, I hope to make a medicinal
healing journey to Holiest Riedsville wednesday or thursday
of next week.
Only" manna " from the burning slabs of that revered shrine
can heal the trauma that my taste buds, stomach , soul and
WALLET have endured.
I will alert the faithful when I undertake my pilgrimage.
Bill
From: "gregoryc & myra taylor" gmht@nospam.net
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: bbq
Date: Mon, 01 Mar 1999 16:05:34 -0500
i agree with your assessment of stephenson's unfortunately
it is the closest to me (angier). Is the white swan on us
301 between four oaks and smithfield of the same lineage as
the one in clayton, i would assume it is?
you have a very good site, i found it on the Yahoo canoe
and kayak page.
--- "W. Charles Barrett" zuf2@worldnet.spamsucks.net wrote: I had a friend from Rocky Mount give this one to me almost 30 years ago...It is great.
BBQ Chicken
- Cup to cup & 1/2 of vinegar
- 1 1/2 tblspoons crushed red pepper
- 1/2 tsp cayanne
- 1 tblspoon honey
- salt & pepper to taste
Cut the chicken down both sides of the back bone removing it. Take breast cartlage out but do not seperate chicken halves. Rub chicken with salt. Place chicken , skin side up over hot charcoal fire and cook slowly for one hour or until juice of chicken bubbles in the lower leg.
Turn chicken over and apply sauce liberaly. Cook another 30 min to 45 min or until thigh joint moves easily.
The secret is to use a hot fire but keep the chicken high so that it cooks slow and even. Also put lots of sauce on the last 45 min. This is the best chicken I have ever had.
Thanks
Sandy Barrett
Greensboro, N.C.
July 27, 1999
Lmorg123@aol.com wrote:
Hi Kent,
I enjoyed reading your pages. I used to have a recipe that
was given to me by a neighbor and was labeled as NC BBQ. I
cannot remember the amounts, but do remember the basic
ingredients. Vinegar (I used cider-vinegar), worcestershire
sauce, prepared mustard, bottled hot sauce, red pepper
flakes, salt, and thyme. I am wondering if this sounds at
all familiar to you. The recipe was used with a pork
shoulder (I cooked in the crock pot, all day). From reading
your pages, this recipe was not TRUE NC BBQ. But, it is
delicious. I would love to have the complete recipe again,
if someone in your readership has ever heard of it.
Thanks,
Linda
If anyone has the recipe she's looking for, please email it
to her, thank you...her addy above is correct (NOT spambot
protected) and hotlinked for your convenience~~~~Kent
July 24, 1999
--- Flynn611@nospam.com wrote:
Thought I would drop you a line and tell you about our
dining experience at Aunt Bea's in "Mayberry" NC on HWY.
52.
We pulled in thinking it had to be better than other
western NC BBQs we had tried in the past, boy were we in
for a shock. They use the entire pig, gristle, skin and
veins, everything. The BBQ was served with a side of fries
and your choice of slaw, regular and BBQ slaw. My fiance
had the regular slaw and I tried the BBQ slaw. Neither were
edible. I tried one bite of this shredded cabbage and BBQ
sauce and spit it in my napkin, while her's contained sugar
only with some salt and pepper. The BBQ itself was floating
in juice and water, evidently intended to keep the Q hot in
it's container. The fries were good, but wet from the Q
juice.
The hushpuppies were little round balls and tasted of old
grease and onions, and were cold. We both covered the BBQ
with their HOT sauce which actually had a good flavor. Now,
we paid almost $14 for these 2 trays, plus drinks. Sorry to
say but they will never get our money when we visit the
area again. We gave it less than 1 pig.
Dennis Brown
Kinston, NC
July 22, 1999
--- RANDB11@aol.com wrote:
My husband and I moved to Florida from North Carolina in
1977. Every time we return to North Carolina for visits we
always bring a few pounds of the BBQ home with us. We were
very surprised the first time we went into a Florida BBQ
restaurant. What they call BBQ down here is definitly not
what we North Carolinians call BBQ.
I enjoyed reading about Wilbur's BBQ in Goldsboro. My
grandfather years ago owned all the property from Hwy 70
back to the Seymour Johnson AFB and sold the piece of
property to Wilbur for the restaurant. I lived in the brick
house that is located next door. The memories of the
aromas!!!
Thanks for publishing such a fine tribute to North Carolina
BBQ!
Bev Whiteside
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 14:23:01 -0400
To: kent@hkentcraig.com
Subject: Great Page
Kent,
I became aware of your website by means of a a list of
great barbecue sites in "The Gainesville Sun" (a.k.a The
Gainesville Mulletwrap), but I must say that this list was
the first true piece of useful information I ever got out
of it.
Not all of us Floridians are heathens when it comes to
barbecue, even if Sonny's was founded here. Quite a few of
my fraternity brothers and I can think of no better way to
pass these hot summer days than sitting out by the pit
smoking a thick slab of ribs or a big, meaty pork shoulder
along with some homemade sauce, all the fixins and ice cold
beer. We are always on the look-out for new ideas and your
site definitely provided me with some great ammo for the
next time we fire up the pit.
Thanks,
Drew Bailey
July 14, 1999
--- Smith mps@nopsam.net wrote:
I was born in Durham, have spent a good deal of time East
of I 95. Bullocks is ok, but is not in the same class of:
1-B's BBQ in Greenville. Absolute best, don't try to call,
they still don't have a phone. The most pure Q you will
ever taste, no misc pieces. They close when the Q is gone.
Best sauce in NC. 2-Parker's in Greenville. Excellent all
around. Brunswick stew perfect. 3 - Starlight in Ayden.
Capitol of BBQ, have a rotunda on their building!
Bullock's is no where near the above 3, which are true
Eastern places.
Thanks very much for the info on Brookwood BBQ. Tried for
first time this past wknd, led me to this site, was
outstanding! I appreciate knowing how to get more.
Really like your site--Happy eating Mike
July 12, 1999
--- Tom Rash Trash@nospam.cc.nc.us wrote:
Kent,
You are offering a valuable service, for not only do people
need to know where to eat, they also need to know the
places to avoid given that most barbecue just edges out
shoe leather. Chaplin might like it, but others beware.
Herewith some comments, observations, dissents to share
with your readers and you:
1. Your comments about sliced versus chopped are misguided,
I feel. Lexington #1 and Bridges in Shelby serve it sliced,
and my friends and I, aficionados all, prefer it that way.
Why? Well, chopping barbecue covers mistakes, for the fat,
gristle, and overcooked portions can be masked by the good
stuff. With sliced cue the meat and that which is
undesirable are there before you, separate and definitely
not equal. Why the prejudice against sliced, which is as
elemental as it gets, short of tearing the meat off with
your teeth?
2. If there is better meat than that served at Lexington
#1, it has to be where the Big Guy eats. I've never had a
bad bite of meat there, and the tea and hush puppies are
good, too. Add that the service is quick and friendly, and
you have a little slice of heaven here on earth.
3. When I can get an address I will review Bridges Barbecue
in Shelby; until then suffice it to say that any cuephile
needs to head to Cleveland County to experience the total
package: barbecue, sweet tea, hush puppies, and barbecue
slaw. Catch Reds, as the local call it, on a good day and
you have a four-pig experience to rival the best of
Lexington; hit an off day and you still are at three pigs.
The quality of the meat does vary, but the tea, left on the
tables in little green pitchers, is the best in NC, and the
hush puppies are a notch above Lexington #1 or Bullocks.
The red barbecue slaw is a love-or-hate proposition, but
those who grew up eating it will have no other.
A note: Don't confuse Reds with the other Bridges Barbecue.
Reds is on Highway 74, across from the Cleveland Mall.
4. A word of advice and caution: Come to Asheville for the
scenery, arts and crafts, music, and climate, but don't
come here expecting to find barbecue. So far all I've eaten
is pale, rubbery meat that has flavor only if you coat it
with the accompanying sauce. To rate this stuff even one
pig would be an affront to that pig.
5. I have eaten twice at Stameys in Greensboro (near the
coliseum). The meat was bland; the service was
indifferent. One pig, to be nice.
Tom Rash
July 11, 1999
--- "James Miller, Jr." jalmillerjr@worldnet.nspam.net
wrote:
It's name is forgotten in time, for it was over a decade
ago, and I was an infrequent visitor to Salisbury. It's
location was on East Innis Street, along the main road into
downtown Salisbury from highway 85. It stood on the right
corner where Innis crossed the bridge over the Southern
Railroad mainline tracks.
New in Salisbury town, I was looking for a barbeque place
to eat. And looking for real wood somewhere about the
premises which would promise real smoke-flavored barbeque.
There under the overhang was the wood...I turned my car in.
Inside, somewhat dim, very smoky, and delightfull to smell,
I espied a barbeque place like no other I'd seen before, or
since.
Towards the center of the dinning room were three or four
medal, possibly copper, covered, brick cooking pits. They
were square, about two feet high. Inside each raised pit,
only pork shoulders were cooking. I ordered. The waitress
took a big fork, opened the pit lid, smoke and sweet smells
arose. She carried the hot shoulder to the table, and
sliced the pork patron a platefull, then asking, do you
want it chopped?
I did, and she did, there at the table. The barbeque was
good, but I was sold on the place's unique sizzel, the
unique smoke-filled, smell filled, delightful to the eye to
see, atmosphere.
I'd never seen such before, nor experienced such since.
This unique Salisbury barbeque sizzle is much missed.
J.A.L.Miller, Jr. (James Alfred Locke Miller, Jr.),
7912-H Harris Hill Lane,
Charlotte, N.C. 28269-0704. Phone 704-BR-549.
P.S., Why did it go out of business? Did that unique
cooking style violate the code?
From: James Miller, Jr. jalmillerjr@worldnet.nospam.net
To: kent@kentcraig.com
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 1999 12:18 PM
Subject: Barbeque, North Carolina, and suchlike.
Barbeque, N.C., is located in Harnett Co., N.C., on
Barbeque Church Road, midway between Sanford and Fort
Bragg, N.C.
I believe the book The N.C. Gazetteer says it was founded
in the 1750s by white settlers from the Caribbean who
observed early morning smoke (fog) lifting out of the
ground. This smoke reminded them of, looked like what they
had observed of native Caribbean Indian barbequeing
meat in the ground. The old country first settler Barbeque
(Presbyterian?) church is lovely and by chance I arrived
early in the dawning and espied exactly what the first
settler namers saw whisps of smoke-like fog arising out of
the earth.
Arise, arise, and go yee to the land of barbeque and be yee
then in a most heavely place, a sanctuary of most delicious
delights most pleasing to the (palet?), the soul
subsisting in the sauce.
Jim, Charlotte, N.C.
July 9, 1999
--- Jenny Jernigan jenny.jernigan.h38o@spamfreefriday.com
wrote:
I am originally from Hamlet, NC and now live in
Jacksonville, FL. Needless to say, I am a true BBQ
connoisseur! I like the Eastern version with the vinegar
best. I can't find that type of BBQ in Florida, so I
stockpile as much as I can when I visit NC and bring it
back with me! I especially like Revels, located in
Bennetsville, SC and Rockingham, NC. I am ordering from
Kings and will let you know how it is. Thanks for the great
information on your site! I particularly like the reviews
and reading others' comments.
June 29, 1999
--- "Peter M. Lance" pmlance@email.nospam.edu wrote:
I am a Yankee who has travelled all over the state on a BBQ
odyssey since I arrived in NC. While that does make me a
novice, it also means that I'm more objective: I don't have
seem deep prejudice toward one type of BBQ or another going
into this. I do really like Bullocks, but I must tell you
now that I am deeply suspicious of your Allen & Sons
review.
I have been there at least 100 times. I have never
encountered uncooked pork (and, by the way, I basically
grew up in a Sicilian kitchen: I do know the difference). I
think that either you are wrong (some shades of pink do not
imply uncooked) or you are referring to the other Allen &
Sons, down 15-501 south, a few miles north of Pittsboro. I
have to tell you, I'm fond of alot of BBQ places, but Allen
& Sons serves some of the finest that I've ever tasted.
Give them another chance: life is too short not to!
Regards,
Peter Lance
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Peter M. Lance
Department of Economics
Gardner Hall
CB 3305
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3305
email: pmlance@email.nospam.edu
June 18, 1999
--- Bill Walker wwalker@email.nospam.edu wrote:
Kent,
I made another BBQ run to Short Sugar's in Reidsville
yesterday. In addition to the manna, I got 4 of their 50th
anniversay T-shirts including a free one they gave me in
appreciation of my missionary work. I had planned to fork
out $75 for their limited 600 edition 50th Anniversary
Print. Instead for $10 more I got #50 of the first 50
Artist's Proofs. The print shows Short Sugar's as it was in
1949. Since then they have added a dining area to the left
of the door. The original just had the counter and stools.
You can still honk after 11:00am and get curb service.
Dave is thinking of expanding , adding more grills in order
to handle BBQ ribs. He has been looking at the success of
a place called Corky's in Memphis Tennessee.
I picked up a new book on the Time-Life press, "Barbecue
America" by Rick Browne and Jack Bettridge at our Student
Store. It has lots of photos of BBQ culture nation wide,
seperate chapters on fish (salmon!), beef, lamb, etc. asa
well as pork. Lots of recipes. Short Sugar's and Lexington
#1 are the only places in the State to make their list of
Barbecue Shrines nationwide.
I spent June 6 - 12 in Charleston, S.C.. The signature dish
of the city, She Crab Soup has become very hard to find.
Fewer restaurants even serve it. Several that had had
excellent version seem to have lost their recipe or cook.
For years Hyman's Seafood and 82 Queen , two of my
favorites had good versions.
Now Hyman's is a thin salty luke warm gruel and 82 Queen's
is like a luke warm pudding, far too thick. The best she
crab (and cheapest) is at Alice's Restaurant around 468 N.
King Street about a block from the new Visitor's Center.
It along with Jestine's on Meeting Street has lots of good
home style Low Counrty cooking. You can get out of both for
under $10, not easy at any others in the city. Hyman's is
best for straight seafood fare, fresh fish, crabs, shrimp,
scallops fried, broiled, blackened or jerked.
Slightly North of Broad Street ( SNOBS) is an excellent
slightly pricey place. I had their grilled tuna salad but
probably hurt the cook's feelings by insisting that they
cook it medium not rare. It was melt in your mouth great.
Bill
June 13, 1999
--- Scott Carson carsons001@nospam.rr.com wrote:
Thank you for your amusing and informative article about NC
Style Bar-B-Q.
Being a native of Georgia and having lived on the coast of
North Carolina for three years, I thourouly appreciate
your dedication to the culinary arts.
However, I have to take issue with your opinion of
hushpuppies. They are not just balls of cornbread; they
contain chopped onions and spices. And, you can find them
all across the Southeast. Ever seen the classic movie
"Smokey and the Bandit"? Try any "all-you-can-eat" catfish
resturant in Georgia for the real thing.
There's plenty o' food left. Help yourself.
Scott
Sun., June 13, 1999
--- jhsbrn jhsbrn@spamforsundaybreakfast.Net wrote:
Kent,
I enjoyed your web page...seems we have a little in common.
I canoe, as well, and enjoy "eastern style" NC barbeque.
I'm originally from Pikeville, NC...which is half from
between Parker's in Wilson and Wilbur's in Goldsboro. I
still have plenty of kinfolk in Wayne County, so I partake
as often as I go "home". Some of my relatives run a
barbeque place near Charlotte...ever heard of Lancaster's
Barbeque near Mooresville? My cousin who owns and runs
this place is a grandson of the late Tommy Lancaster known
to thousands as "Big Daddy" of Big Daddy's Restaurant
(originally and formerly Kure Beach and now Mooresville).
I live in SC now, not far from Charleston (Walterboro, to
be exact), and barbeque the way I'm used to at home it is
hard to come by here. I tried some of your recipes and
they turned out real well...especially the red potatoes
(Parker's style). Seems everyone is making barbeque sauce
for sale in Wayne County, so getting good sauce is easy.
Anyway, thought you'd like to know. I kind of stumbled on
your canoeing web page and hit the barbeque link. My wife
is from Buck Swamp, a frog's leap from Nahunta (pork
capital of the world), so she knows good barbeque too.
Thanks for having the info available...we enjoyed a great
evening's meal, courtesy of you.
Jim Brown
Purely American Foods
1060 West 35th Street
Norfolk, Virginia 23508
757-622-7548
Contact: Ray Leard, President
757-622-7548
Wed., June 2, 1999
For Immediate Release
Purely American Foods acquires Virginia based Peter's Beach
Sauce Company. Plans national rollout.
Norfolk, VA ~ Purely American, an eleven year old
manufacturer of over 70 hand-crafted bean soups, chilis,
pastas, and grain-based food mixes, recently acquired
Peter's Beach Sauce Co. of Virginia Beach, Virginia.
Peter's is a well-known regional company whose primary
product –~Peter's Beach BBQ has been voted the best
Carolina style (vinegar based) BBQ sauce in America by Bon
Appetite Magazine (July, 1996).
Ray Leard, President, indicates that plans include an
immediate national rollout of the sauce using
well-established regional specialty food distributors.
For more information, interested retailers and distributors
should contact Ray Leard @ 757.622.7548, (fax)
757.622.3640, e-mail www.purely_american@juno.com, and web
site: www.purelyamerica.com.
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